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The Milan Prosecutor's Office are interested in questioning Hugo "el Pollo" Carvajal

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Hugo Carvajal

This Thursday the news was released about the interest of the Milan Prosecutor's Office in questioning Venezuelan Hugo "el Pollo" Carvajal, who is the former head of Venezuela's secret services.

This in relation to money laundering and illegal financing of different political parties.

In this way, the Italian justice wants to interrogate Pollo Carvajal to collect information on the financing of the 5-Star Movement, with at least 3.5 million euros.

It should be mentioned that this financing of Chavismo came to light in July 2020, which had a great impact in Italy.

At that time, this news became a great political scandal in Italy, so the Milan Prosecutor's Office opened an investigation with the alleged rumor of the illegal financing of political parties and money laundering.

Carvajal is a key piece for the investigation

In order to be able to collect all the information necessary to get to the bottom of this case, the Italian magistrates want to question Hugo Carvajal, who previously through a written statement confirmed to the judge of the National High Court, Manuel García Castellón, said financing by the chavismo.

Some of the parties that benefited from Chavismo were Podemos, who have denied this information, and the Movimiento 5 Estrella party, which was founded in 2009 by the late Gianroberto Casaleggio and Beppe Grillo.

Chicken Carvajal Declaration

Chicken Carvajal Statements

Venezuelan Hugo Carvajal, who was head of Venezuela's secret services during Hugo Chávez Fría's term, has shown all his intention to speak out and cooperate with justice, which is why he has dedicated himself to showing all the turbulent businesses of which has knowledge.

In the case of money laundering with political parties, his statement was as follows:

"This is just another of the examples of the many communist movements around the world financed by Maduro and of which I received a very detailed report, which is related to the 5-Star Movement commanded by Gianroberto Caleggio and which was reported by the Attaché Office. Military of Venezuela in Italy ".

"It was there that it was learned that a suitcase containing 3.5 million euros in cash was sent. That money was laundered and authorized at that time by Foreign Minister Nicolás Maduro and was taken to that country through a diplomatic bag", added the former Venezuelan agent.

According to the documents of the Venezuelan secret services, Gianroberto Casaleggio was considered the "promoter of a revolutionary and anti-capitalist left movement of the Republic of Italy."

Therefore, this request from the Milan Prosecutor's Office could have some repercussion on the current situation of Hugo Carvajal, who has been detained for more than a month in Spain by mandate of the United States, who are requesting his extradition.

An extradition that has been canceled at the last minute and that could be delayed a little more due to the request of the magistrates of Milan, which has been carried out by means of a rogatory commission, in other words, by means of a communication between courts of the different countries to carry out judicial proceedings.

Very good relations between Spain and Italy

Regarding justice issues, both countries maintain very good relations, an issue in which Manuel Garccía Castellon contributed in a special way, who for five years was the liaison magistrate in Rome between the Spanish and Italian justice.

The Italian magistrates are very clear about their objectives with Pollo Carvajal. They want to question him before his extradition to the United States is approved, something that seems to have no reverse. This is how the magistrates express the following:

"The purpose of the investigations requested from the Economic and Financial Police Unit of the Finance Guard is to be able to know the alleged financing, thus understanding the role played by Consul Di Martino and all the other intermediaries involved in this event."

"Those who would have received a sum of 3.5 million euros in Italy. In addition to the implications of the late Casaleggio and for what purpose all this money was used, especially to know if there are other more recent episodes to investigate." They added the Italian magistrates.

Revelations of great importance

Carvajal key piece against Maduro

Hugo Carvajal's revelations about this entire chapter of party financing, especially the 5-Star Movement, had a great echo in all the Italian media, which unleashed a great political revolt in the country.

Among the first to rise up to ask the state for an explanation was Giorgia Meloni, leader of the Brothers of Italy: "We know that from the newspaper II Giornale, the former head of Chavez's military intelligence, Hugo Carvajal, would have confirmed the financing to the Spanish justice system. Of the country's parties by the Venezuelan regime around the world, among these are the M5E. "

"It has been a news broadcast last year, where Pollo Carvajal has spoken of a briefcase with three and a half million euros in cash and that was sent to the late Gianroberto Casaleggio by the current president of Venezuela, Nicolás Maduro, who in At that time he was Chávez's chancellor. " Explained the Leader of Brothers of Italy.

Likewise, Giorgia Meloni has officially asked the 5-Star Movement and its current president, Giuseppe Conte, to clarify these rumors and politically distance themselves from the communist dictatorship of Venezuela, which is starving its people right now, forcing them to millions of people to have to leave their homeland for a better future.

Similarly, the deputy of the Brothers of Italy, Augusta Montaruli, has brought this case to Parliament.

This is how he has asked the Minister of the Interior, Luciana Lamorgese, by means of a question, to take the necessary measures to verify a possible interference by a foreign State in national politics and government statements. "

On the other hand, Nicola Danti, MEP from Italia Viva, has emphasized that the European Parliament, in the previous legislature, the members of the 5-Star Movement always voted against or abstained in the sentences against the Venezuelan regime.

Faced with this serious complaint and revelations by Carvajal, who claims to have a lot of information about this case and which was of great importance in the Italian media, has fallen on the son of the co-founder of M5E, Davide Casaleggio, who has come out in defense of his deceased father.

"My father has never received money from the Venezuelan government. Last year it was possible to demonstrate by means of a document presented as proof that it had been falsified with Photoshop." Explains the son of the co-founder of the party, who is the president of the Association Rousseau presidents.

In order to defend the honor and memory of his father, Casaleggio sent a letter to the President of the Republic, Sergio Mattarella, in which he requests that the truth be clarified about a person who is no longer here and who has always done the right thing moral integrity its own beacon.

For now, it only remains to wait if the magistrates are granted the opportunity to question Hugo "Pollo" Carvajal before being extradited to the United States.


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